Lee Kovarsky and Jennifer Rubin discuss the recent conviction of a former president of the United States and the challenges faced by the judge and jury in the trial. They explore the exercise of prosecutorial discretion, the criticism of the decision to prosecute, and the importance of respecting the rule of law.

They also touch on the issue of presidential immunity and the potential involvement of the Supreme Court. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the breakdown of the federal court system and the challenges faced by prosecutors in dealing with difficult judges.

Lee Kovarsky is a legal scholar and professor, known for his expertise in criminal law, habeas corpus, and capital punishment. He teaches at the University of Texas School of Law.